Session Start: Wed Oct 09 00:00:00 2013 Session Ident: #glitchpc [00:00] * Now talking in #glitchpc
[00:00] * Topic is 'Welcome to #glitchpc chat. Profanity, trolls, and impersonation are not welcome here. Street1 has become a Silent Keyboard. http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/savannah/obituary.aspx?page=lifestory&pid=139870551'
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[00:17]<PCdoc> anyone there?? camerongray ?
[00:17]<+Craig> I am am
[00:18]<+Craig> ... though I may not be as useful as I usually am...
[00:20]<Zuwer> Don't know why, was reminded of a quote from Scrubs because of that.
[00:26]<+Craig> PCdoc did you need something? I am leaving soon.
[00:27]<@BC_Programming> he wants to PM camerongray because I was a meanie mean pants
[00:27]<+Craig> Ah, that is a battle he will loose quickly.
[00:27]<+Craig> How goes it BC?
[00:27]<+Craig> Do you get my skype messages anymore? :P
[00:27]<@BC_Programming> can't complain
[00:27]<PCdoc> yes had some question from last discussion
[00:28]<PCdoc> about gaming pc
[00:28]<+Craig> Oh?
[00:28]<+Craig> What are your questions PCdoc
[00:28]<PCdoc> calum and camerongray suggested me few things
[00:28]<@BC_Programming> Craig: yeah I kinda prefer to leave skype as my work thing fwiw, at least in terms of chat/messages... I had just gone to bed when you messaged this morning heh
[00:28]<+Craig> :P hahahaha I see
[00:29]<PCdoc> camerongray: suggested me z87 x d3H gigabyte mobo with 4670k processor
[00:29]<+Craig> Ok,.
[00:29]<+Craig> and?
[00:29]<PCdoc> but the distributor has only z87 m d3h in stock
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[00:30]<PCdoc> secondly calum suggested to go for Cooler master v550s PSU which is not available
[00:30]<+Craig> Are you doing SLI, or Crossfire? and do you have more than 3 harddrives?
[00:31]<PCdoc> no only 1 500GB
[00:31]<PCdoc> and 1 DVD writer
[00:31]<+Craig> Do you need the extra 3 PCIe 1x slots?
[00:31]<+Craig> and the 16x slot running 8x PCIe
[00:32]<PCdoc> no, gonna put in 1 650ti or 650 graphics card
[00:32]<PCdoc> 1GB
[00:32]<+Craig> Then there is no reason the latter board would not work for you.
[00:32]<+Craig> As for the PSU, any coolermaster or the like around the 550 to 650 range would work.
[00:32]<PCdoc> actually, camerongray said intel boards are good but less features
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[00:33]<+Craig> Depends on your understanding, and needs, Intel boards are just fine.
[00:33]<+Craig> Ahh, the intel nic. That would make only about a 0.05% difference in a consumer board.
[00:34]<+Craig> On install, sometimes the intel nic will pickup properly on windows install. However the Realtek one won't always.
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[00:35]<+Craig> Night PCdoc,
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[00:37]<PCdoc> on fone
[00:37]<PCdoc> sorry
[00:40]<Zuwer> CPU and mobo wise it sounds a lot like my new desktop, although I went for a z87-hd3 mobo.
[00:57]<PCdoc> If i wanna suggest the client not to over-clock. As they are a bit like new to all these stuff and they may fry up the whole setup if they try to over-clock etc
[00:57]<PCdoc> without knowing what they are doing
[00:57]<PCdoc> so if I suggest 4670 only instead of 'k'
[00:57]<PCdoc> then which mobo would be good?
[00:58]<@BC_Programming> Isn't it your Job to know?
[00:59]<PCdoc> Even If I know, the client is actually using it for home use. In my absense if there kids who are ctually gonna use it, try to over-clock
[00:59]<PCdoc> I mean the customer actually his younger son came to me asking for a 8gb or 32 gb graphics card
[01:00]<PCdoc> from this I can understand how much knowledgeable he is
[01:00]<PCdoc> and the games they are gonna play is like GTA, battlefield etc
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[01:44]<@BC_Programming> heya Tux
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[01:46]<Tux2> Heya BC_Programming
[01:48]<@BC_Programming> what have you been up to :P
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[02:00]<Tux2> Oh, just working on stuff for church
[02:00]<Tux2> Also, my mom came up for the weekend with the kids
[02:00]<@BC_Programming> oh cool
[02:00]<Tux2> Also, I made a new plugin: http://dev.bukkit.org/bukkit-plugins/chunkscrubber/
[02:02]<@BC_Programming> nifty! you should make it be able to remove entities too, they seem to sometimes get out of control and cause issues
[02:03]<Tux2> Yeah, I probably will, I made it as a quick code for a friend that needed to remove a huge amount of ender portal material that was lagging the entire server out
[02:03]<@BC_Programming> yeah that would have that effect, lol
[02:04]<Tux2> They couldn't get near the area without client lag, so I made it and they put in the material ID and ran over the area and POOF! Lag was gone
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[04:10]<PCdoc> camerongray: there?
[04:10]<PCdoc> I chose 4670 for my client
[04:10]<PCdoc> which should be a good motherboard for it?
[04:11]<PCdoc> coz the board of gigabyte u suggested is for over-clocking I suppose
[04:11]<+camerongray> Why not the K?
[04:11]<+camerongray> They can overclock if they want
[04:11]<PCdoc> And he already has a 6450 2Gb card with him. He had installed on his core2duo machine
[04:11]<PCdoc> Its exceeding there budget
[04:12]<+camerongray> You can overclock a 4670, it's just not safe
[04:12]<+camerongray> Even then, replace it, the 6450 is junk
[04:12]<+camerongray> You would get games running better on the integrated graphics
[04:13]<PCdoc> The client has probably got his brain washed by certain friends. Not ready to listen to me.
[04:13]<PCdoc> I mean he does not want to spend that much.
[04:13]<+camerongray> Well tell him is card is junk
[04:13]<+camerongray> No way will he get the performance an i5 can give
[04:14]<PCdoc> He bought this 6450 2GB fewe days back. Never used it. He wants me to buy back it for a cost nearer to what he purchased
[04:14]<PCdoc> few days *
[04:14]<PCdoc> which is not possible
[04:14]<+camerongray> Then tell him it's not a good enough card
[04:15]<PCdoc> He is forciong me to buy that card at a cost I can't afford
[04:15]<PCdoc> forcing *
[04:15]<+camerongray> Did he buy it from you?
[04:15]<PCdoc> No! he bought using some online shopping
[04:16]<+camerongray> Then refuse!
[04:16]<Zuwer> My previous GPU was a 550 ti, for gaming, I wouldn't go any lower than that, at the bare minimum. :x
[04:16]<+camerongray> Or return it to them
[04:16]<PCdoc> Then I might lose the whole deal
[04:16]<PCdoc> :(
[04:16]<+camerongray> If you use the 6450 in the new build it will run crap and it'll make it seem like you built a crap machine
[04:17]<Tux2> It's better to lose a deal than build a bad performing computer
[04:17]<+camerongray> Yeah
[04:17]<+camerongray> Otherwise it will be "Don't go with PCdoc, he built me a gaming machine that can barely run Minecraft"
[04:17]<+camerongray> I use a 6450 as a testing card
[04:18]<Tux2> On that note, Bukkit depreciated the use of Magic values in their code, yet they are still using those same depreciated methods in their code.
[04:18]<PCdoc> The 650 is Nvidia... and they just don't want it
[04:18]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: magic values?
[04:18]<Tux2> https://github.com/Bukkit/Bukkit/blob/master/src/main/java/org/bukkit/material/Wool.java
[04:19]<PCdoc> the reason is there previous card was Nvidia whose chipset died out of warranty. And he got to listen from everywhere that Nvidia has 'rpoblems'
[04:19]<Tux2> I'm wanting to get colors of carpet, but it seems I have to use depreciated methods until the API catches up
[04:19]<Zuwer> I know next to nothing of AMD cards, what's the equivalent of a 550 ti or 650 with AMD in terms of performance?
[04:19]<+camerongray> Then explain they are wrong
[04:19]<+camerongray> Or get a decent AMD card
[04:20]<+camerongray> The 6450 is terrible, lower than the integrated graphics
[04:20]<+camerongray> Just show him the driver issues that AMD have
[04:20]<Tux2> Let's put a household light bulb in a spotlight, that should work
[04:21]<@BC_Programming> Tux2: can't you use DyeColor and pass in the data value of the carpet?
[04:21]<@BC_Programming> oh
[04:21]<Tux2> Of course! But those methods are depreciated
[04:21]<@BC_Programming> getByWoolData is deprecated too
[04:21]<PCdoc> He said his current laptop which has probably core i7 2nd or 3rd generation and Dedicated graphics. The laptop has an option to switch between the graphics chipset. But He did not like the integrated one
[04:22]<PCdoc> He has an Alienware
[04:22]<Tux2> I'm going to have to use depreciated methods I guess...
[04:22]<+camerongray> Then he'll get even wose performance with his 6450
[04:22]<@BC_Programming> GP still uses deprecated methods of it's own API lol
[04:22]<Tux2> lol
[04:22]<@BC_Programming> I don't know if I did that or if it was already there but it's funny
[04:23]<Tux2> problem is, I don't like using Depreciated methods, but I have to
[04:23]<Tux2> the Bukkit API is still incomplete it seems
[04:23]<Tux2> even with a recommended build out
[04:23]<+camerongray> You only need to show him the price/size of a real card to see how crap the 6450 is
[04:23]<@BC_Programming> it's probably something that hasn't come up yet Tux
[04:24]<+camerongray> If he can afford an i7, then he can afford an i5 with a real GPU
[04:24]<Tux2> Maybe
[04:25]<Tux2> Whatever, I'll get to that issue when I get to it
[04:25]<Tux2> I need to code the rest of the plugin first
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[04:25]<+camerongray> PCdoc: This doesn't sound like the sort of build you'd want to be doing
[04:26]<+camerongray> Guy sounds like an idiot "I'm a gamer, I know everything" type person - You're just going to be supporting all his 'problems' with it
[04:26]<@BC_Programming> That's wrong camerongray, PCDoc will just ask you!
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[04:26]<+camerongray> lol
[04:27]<Tux2> lol
[04:27]<Tux2> Tell him to go take his card back and exchange it for a better one
[04:30]<+camerongray> PCdoc: The 4670 would be fine then, just get a gigabyte board with a H87 chipset
[04:30]<+camerongray> PCdoc: Show him videocardbenchmark.net - That will show how crap the 6450 is compared to something like a 650
[04:30]<+camerongray> The results aren't super accurate but it will show him how bad his card is
[04:32]<PCdoc> The supplier has this mobo available - Z87 M D3H
[04:32]<PCdoc> Gigabyte
[04:33]<PCdoc> The one you said are not available
[04:33]<+camerongray> That would be fine but no point going with a Z87 chipset if you can't OC the CPU
[04:33]<+camerongray> Board will work, just costs a bit more
[04:34]<+camerongray> The issue here is the graphics card, don't even consider using the 6450
[04:35]<PCdoc> Then what is 6450 good for?
[04:35]<Tux2> an upgrade for an old pc
[04:36]<+camerongray> Or home/office use
[04:36]<+camerongray> Like on a PC with no integrated graphics
[04:36]<Tux2> Yeah, nvidia 6450 cards are old history
[04:36]<+camerongray> Or very light games - It'll run Minecraft at a push
[04:36]<+camerongray> Tux2: AMD
[04:36]<Tux2> Oh, lol
[04:36]<+camerongray> Tux2: New-ish, but still junk
[04:36]<Tux2> lol, it would upgrade my desktop. :P
[04:37]<+camerongray> But when you are building a new haswell machine, it's nowhere close
[04:37]<Tux2> But yeah, even my laptop has a better GPU than that
[04:38]<Tux2> I was looking at maybe a 7750 for my desktop as an upgrade
[04:38]<PCdoc> How about Intel board itself if over-clocking not required?
[04:39]<+camerongray> It's okay yeah, but it's designed for office use, not gaming
[04:40]<+camerongray> You'd probably save money going for a Gigabyte board and this would allow for a better GPU
[04:40]<+camerongray> Intel are leaving the motherboard market anyway
[04:40]<PCdoc> Yeah I heard that
[04:40]<PCdoc> Learned *
[04:46]<PCdoc> HE has H87PE Asus
[04:46]<PCdoc> sorry
[04:46]<PCdoc> H87ME
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[04:55]<PCdoc> http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=4567#ov this ?
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[05:02]<Tux2> Ugh! These depreciation lines are driving me nuts!
[05:03]<@Mulreay> Tux2 do you have a mod for MC called Tux weapons?
[05:07]<Tux2> lol, nope, someone else's mod
[05:07]<@Mulreay> ahh
[05:08]<Tux2> I am making a plugin right now though called ColorShuffle
[05:08]<@Mulreay> Sounds interesting
[05:08]<Tux2> Yup, it's a minigame
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[05:10]<@Mulreay> cool
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[07:29]<PCdoc> Anyone uses ms word often?
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[08:27]<@Mulreay> OK I just applied for a job at PC World.. things are getting desperate indeed
[08:31]<@jacky> for you? or for PC World?
[08:31]<@jacky> :)
[08:31]<@Mulreay> lol touche
[08:31]<@jacky> (it was too easy)
[08:31]<@jacky> hehe
[08:36]<+camerongray> Mulreay: Difference is that you know stuff :P
[08:36]<@Mulreay> heh, not so sure about that :p
[09:04]<@BC_Programming> "Hello I'm looking for a new laptop"
[09:04]<@BC_Programming> "This ain't a strip joint mate"
[09:05]<@BC_Programming> Or "Well this model has more gigarams"
[09:05]<@Mulreay> lol, and a special fluffer valve
[09:06]<@BC_Programming> "Also be sure to buy extra oil for the hard drive engines
[09:07]<@Mulreay> lol
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[09:09]<@BC_Programming> So there was a commercial on just now that said to forget everything I know about frozen yogurt... so I did, man that was a load off my mind
[09:09]<@BC_Programming> then it tried to sell me frozen yogurt and I didn't know what it was
[09:09]<+camerongray> haha
[09:10]<@Mulreay> lol
[09:13]<@BC_Programming> Bananas are the opposite of traffic lights
[09:14]<@BC_Programming> Green means Not to eat it, yellow means go ahead and red means you've discovered a rare variety
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> Anybody ever flown a kite?
[09:15]<PCdoc> me
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> Is it just me or is it weird that people seem proud of themselves when they get it in the air.... that's not impressive, it's what they are supposed to do
[09:15]<@jacky> I forgot everything I ever knew about frozen yellow kites
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> Now if somebody was flying a Chair... Well, THAT would be impressive
[09:15]<@BC_Programming> imagine how fast you'd have to run to do that
[09:16]<@jacky> Sinbad did that, right? ... no... wait... that was a carpet
[09:16]<@BC_Programming> Mitch Hedberg
[09:16]<@BC_Programming> that is who the Joke is from
[09:16]<@jacky> he flew a chair?
[09:17]<@jacky> !seen Mitch_Hedberg
[09:17]<@BC_Programming> I modified it though because I capitalized "Chair" for no reason
[09:17]<@BC_Programming> As my epitaph will plainly say
[09:18]<@BC_Programming> Here lies BC
[09:18]<@BC_Programming> He sure had some flair
[09:18]<@BC_Programming> he made a habit
[09:18]<@BC_Programming> to capitalize chair
[09:18]<@BC_Programming> they might use my real name if they can identify the body
[09:19]<@jacky> oh... it was an electric chair?
[09:19]<@jacky> crispy crittered your body?
[09:19]<@BC_Programming> I haven't decided yet
[09:19]<@jacky> heh
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> I'm thinking it will be a skydiving accident
[09:20]<@jacky> if at first you don't succeed.... forget it, it's all over
[09:20]<@BC_Programming> "I told BC, I said, you can't skydive with an Elephant"
[09:20]<@jacky> (tip: use a very skinny elephant)
[09:21]<@BC_Programming> "And he said 'watch me'" and I did. Dumbo can't fly"
[09:21]<@jacky> "How to turn an elephant into a squash"
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[09:35]<@Mulreay> hey pottsi
[09:36]<+pottsi> hey dude
[09:36]<@jacky> pottsi: Hello
[09:36]<+pottsi> hi jacky
[09:37]<@BC_Programming> !seen dude
[09:37]<@BC_Programming> I had to
[09:37]<+pottsi> lol
[09:38]<@jacky> heh
[09:38]<@Mulreay> !seen life_from_a_different_perspective
[09:38]<@Mulreay> He didn't like that
[09:40]<@BC_Programming> Q.How many alzeimers patients does it take to screw in a light bulb?
[09:40]<@BC_Programming> A. To get to the other side
[09:41]<@Mulreay> heh
[09:42]<@BC_Programming> I think these students may have missed their own message: http://i.imgur.com/DElP3bF.jpg
[09:43]<@jacky> Alzeimers is great... make new friends... ... everyday!
[09:43]<@BC_Programming> Except Tuesdays. That's the day they up your medication
[09:43]<@BC_Programming> I've said too much *shifts eyes back and forth* carry on
[09:44]<@jacky> just don't you say any of that programming talk!!
[09:45]<@BC_Programming> I tried to make a perfect square out of Pi but I didn't have the right pan
[09:45]<@jacky> pi r round, cornbread r square
[09:46]<@BC_Programming> four thirds Pi r cubed
[09:46]<@jacky> ? that's the volume of the 4th dimension... right?
[09:47]<@BC_Programming> volume of a sphere
[09:47]<@jacky> same thing ... sigh
[09:47]<@jacky> who do you think you are, huh?
[09:47]<@BC_Programming> I don't know, I'll ask around
[09:48]<@jacky> you will?
[09:48]<@jacky> you can't even join the channel where all the good answers are
[09:48]<@jacky> heheheeh
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[09:57]<@BC_Programming> well this is fun
[09:57]<@BC_Programming> So far this week I've had to spend an hour just resyncing my Project files before I can actually do anything, because people keep changing the stuff I'm supposed to be working on
[09:58]<@BC_Programming> (hour each day, I mean)
[09:58]<@jacky> is there a way to prevent this?
[09:58]<@BC_Programming> yeah, I could kill people
[09:58]<@jacky> sounds like there should be, as it is very inefficient
[09:58]<@jacky> heh
[09:59]<@BC_Programming> but that's frowned upon
[09:59]<@jacky> can't you make copies, use them, and make them unavailable for messing with?
[09:59]<@BC_Programming> I can lock the files, my project isn't even in the repository yet, the problem is the libraries
[10:00]<@jacky> what is the problem there?
[10:00]<@BC_Programming> they keep changing the source so I have to keep updating everything from the repository
[10:00]<@BC_Programming> then I find out they also changed another library that it uses and have to update that one...
[10:01]<@BC_Programming> takes an hour for me to get my own project to build properly again
[10:02]<@jacky> do they know how much time they are causing to be wasted?
[10:02]<@jacky> or are you the only one?
[10:02]<@jacky> it just sounds silly... from a management point of view
[10:02]<@jacky> something must be going on... more to the story
[10:05]<@BC_Programming> I'm going to have to see what WO this stuff is filed against because it seems like pointless trash changes
[10:07]<@jacky> WO ?
[10:07]<@jacky> work order?
[10:08]<@BC_Programming> yeah
[10:09]<@jacky> luck on you
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> "Build failure. 788 Errors and 12 Warnings"
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> nice
[10:12]<@jacky> you're not talking about programming... are you??
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> and then I immediately rebuilt it and got 1 error instead, weirdness
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> Oh no
[10:12]<@BC_Programming> Have mercy!
[10:13]<@jacky> maybe I should look that up
[10:13]<@jacky> nah... sounds good
[10:13]<@BC_Programming> Oh exalted one! I promise to keep mine nose brown
[10:13]<@jacky> hahahaha
[10:13]<@jacky> hahahahahahahahah
[10:13]<@jacky> you win
[10:13]<@jacky> I can't stand it
[10:13]<@jacky> heheheehehehee
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[12:41]<+camerongray> So, I guess Tesco can't do maths
[12:42]<+camerongray> Says "20 mins" on the front - Yet the instructions say to put in oven for 10-15mins, then add sause and cook for a further 25mins!
[12:44]<@Mulreay> heh
[13:07]<@Mulreay> PC world have just left a message on my phone and they want to speak with me tomorrow.. hopefully not to tell me off
[13:07]<+camerongray> Cool!
[13:07]<@Mulreay> But damn i need a job.. the £70 every two months from YouTube just aint paying the bills
[13:08]<+camerongray> Yeah!
[13:08]<@Mulreay> Hopefully I can make a change to some peoples experience of PC World in Stockport
[13:11]<+camerongray> lol yeah
[13:11]<+camerongray> They seem to be a mixed bag
[13:11]<+camerongray> Sometimes you do get a really good person
[13:11]<@Mulreay> Hopefully if I get the job I could be that guy
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[13:16]<+camerongray> Yeah
[13:18]<@Mulreay> I will make to have you guys on speed dial just incase :p
[13:18]<@Mulreay> sure*
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[13:22]<@Mulreay> Is the Doctor with you?
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[13:26]<TARDIS> I'm afraid he's not
[13:26]<@Mulreay> Damn
[13:33]<TARDIS> !seen GlitchPC
[13:34]<@Mulreay> It has been a LONG time since we had the pleasure of his presence
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[14:07]<@Calum> hi all
[14:13]<+camerongray> hey!
[14:13]<@Calum> been at my parents' tonight but thought I would pop on briefly
[14:13]<@Calum> I see we're still banned
[14:13]<+camerongray> Yep! :P
[14:13]<@Calum> didn't expect otherwise
[14:14]<+camerongray> I have to say - Kyle is a pretty cool guy, was chatting to him in PM
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[14:14]<@Mulreay> hey Calum
[14:14]<@Calum> hey Mulreay
[14:14]<@Mulreay> Banned?
[14:14]<@Calum> if you're in #glitchpc, you can't enter #computerhope
[14:14]<@Calum> there's a channel ban in place
[14:14]<@Mulreay> Ahh yeah
[14:14]<+camerongray> You can enter, but can't say anything
[14:15]<@Calum> I tried to enter, wouldn't even let me in
[14:15]<@Calum> just says, you are banned
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[14:15]<@Mulreay> #computerhope unable to join channel (address is banned)
[14:15]<+camerongray> Ahh
[14:15]<+camerongray> Hmm
[14:15]<@Calum> maybe you're special cameron
[14:15]<@Mulreay> Such a sad channel
[14:15]<+camerongray> It's just stupid TBH
[14:15]<@Calum> what were you saying about Kyle anyway?
[14:16]<@Calum> yeah I know, as I said in the thread if they wanted to ban anyone in particular, this doesn't help....if I exit this channel I could join CH
[14:16]<@Calum> so it achieves nothing apart from making sure we can't be in both
[14:17]<@Mulreay> I feel sorry that as a nice guy nathan will do jack all about this
[14:17]<@Calum> indeed. I just find it such a bizarre thing to do
[14:18]<@Mulreay> agreed
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[14:22]<@Mulreay> They have the power in that channel but did nothing to obtain it. To quote Jurassic park 'it didn't require any discipline to attain it. You read what others had done and you took the next step. You didn't earn the knowledge for yourselves, so you don't take any responsibility for it. You stood on the shoulders of geniuses to accomplish something as fast as you could' there all power crazy
[14:22]<@Mulreay> off of nothing but somebody elses work
[14:23]<@Mulreay> That was quite a lame quote I know
[14:23]<+camerongray> If anything I was spending too much time in CH
[14:24]<@Calum> nah I think it still applies Mulreay
[14:24]<@Calum> and I do love jurassic park heh
[14:24]<@Mulreay> heh
[14:24]<@Mulreay> me too
[14:24]<+camerongray> You and your Dinosaurs :P
[14:24]<@Calum> yeah Cameron, spend time here and teach me Linux instead :P
[14:24]<+camerongray> To be fair, you sound like my flatmate :P
[14:24]<@Calum> I LOVE dinosaurs
[14:24]<@Calum> a LOT
[14:24]<+camerongray> Oh, you'd love my flatmate then :P
[14:24]<@Calum> do you know what we're doing for my birthday next year?
[14:24]<@Mulreay> Dinosaurs are awesome
[14:25]<@Calum> going to a dinosaur park
[14:25]<+camerongray> lol, nice!
[14:25]<@Calum> possibly more than one
[14:25]<+camerongray> We now have pictures of dinorsaurs up in the kitchen after he "tested" the new printer
[14:25]<@Calum> we have a list of dinosaur parks in the UK
[14:25]<@Calum> 2 guys I worked with at OcUK loved dinosaurs
[14:25]<@Mulreay> not Jurassic park? As I hear that your chances of survival are kinda low
[14:25]<@Calum> heh, no, not there
[14:25]<+camerongray> lol, you do sound like my flatmate
[14:26]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, he was also one of the "CodingCafe Clowns" years ago :P
[14:26]<@Mulreay> me?
[14:26]<@Calum> we should visit you guys sometime
[14:26]<+camerongray> My flatmate :P
[14:26]<+camerongray> Yeah!
[14:26]<+camerongray> I was chatting to him at my desk and he glances at my screen - "OMG! Jacky and Mulreay!" :P
[14:27]<+camerongray> Yeah, we do all need to meet up at some point somehow
[14:27]<@Calum> meet at OcUK for hardware and oatcakes
[14:28]<+camerongray> lol!
[14:28]<+camerongray> Needs to be doable by train for me :P
[14:28]<@Mulreay> Imagine a glitchpc meet up where we all decend on to a bar or restaurant.. camerongray Calum Craig bc_programming jacky tux2 pottsi and others.. I could turn up as well
[14:28]<+camerongray> Come to Edinburgh for... err... old stuff
[14:28]<+camerongray> That would be amazing!
[14:28]<@Calum> we should actually do it sometime
[14:29]<@Mulreay> It would be very cool
[14:29]<@Calum> The OcUK forum guys do a few meets a year in various parts of the country and it's usually a good turnout so it can work
[14:29]<+camerongray> Getting people over would be tough though
[14:29]<+camerongray> But worth it
[14:29]<@Calum> bit different because half of us are in different countries, so it'd take a bit of organising
[14:29]<+camerongray> Yeah, and money
[14:29]<@Mulreay> craig is up for a holiday here I'm told
[14:29]<+camerongray> :D
[14:30]<+camerongray> I'd have to say, Edinburgh could be a great option during the festival - Loads to do
[14:30]<@Mulreay> He does want to meet up
[14:30]<@Calum> I'd be up for that
[14:30]<@Calum> both of the above actually
[14:30]<@Mulreay> Never been to Scotland and would love to
[14:30]<@Calum> there's a direct train from Derby to Edinburgh, too
[14:30]<@Mulreay> There's one from Manchester as well
[14:31]<@Mulreay> I'm starting to feel an idea is brewing between us
[14:31]<@Calum> indeed
[14:32]<+camerongray> Yeah
[14:32]<@Mulreay> Lets all go rush camerongray and stay at his house
[14:32]<+camerongray> The festival is great - Obviously hotels get more expensive but there is so much stuff on
[14:32]<+camerongray> lol, that may be a bit of an issue - There's my room and maybe the kitchen :P
[14:32]<@Calum> we can all sleep in your bed
[14:32]<@Calum> no homo
[14:32]<@Mulreay> Do you have a bath and a spare pillow?
[14:32]<+camerongray> Get Tattoo tickets
[14:33]<+camerongray> lol - no bath :P
[14:33]<+camerongray> Two showers if you could sleep in them somehow :P
[14:33]<@Calum> hah
[14:33]<@Mulreay> Sleep stood up we could ghet a few of us in there
[14:33]<+camerongray> lol!
[14:34]<@Mulreay> Definately something to consider
[14:34]<@Mulreay> for the future
[14:34]<@Calum> definitely
[14:34]<+camerongray> Tattoo could be good - I've never properly been
[14:34]<@Calum> I would 100% be up for that, do want to go to Edinburgh, and Cassie wants to go as well
[14:34]<+camerongray> I helped out with Scouts and got to see it then, but not from the stands or anything
[14:34]<@Mulreay> Isn't Tatoo a band from years ago? Two lesbians or very close friends?
[14:35]<Craig-Work> Hey Guys
[14:35]<+camerongray> lol!
[14:35]<@Calum> hah
[14:35]<@Calum> that was tatu I think
[14:35]<+camerongray> Yeah, it was :P
[14:35]<@Calum> kool because it's spelt differently
[14:35]<@Mulreay> That;s the one
[14:35]<+camerongray> Play them a lot at work :P
[14:35]<@Mulreay> hey Craig-Work
[14:35]<@Calum> hey Craig-Work
[14:35]<+camerongray> Hey Craig-Work - We are plotting
[14:35]<@Mulreay> You are invited to Edinburgh
[14:36]<@Mulreay> For a merry Scottish Glitchpc meet up
[14:36]<+camerongray> There will be beer and whiskey and haggis :P
[14:36]<@Mulreay> Mmm haggis is VERY nice
[14:36]<+camerongray> Yep
[14:37]<+camerongray> No idea how much hotels here are :P
[14:37]<+camerongray> Quite a few Travelodges/Premier inns though
[14:37]<@Mulreay> My Mum and Dad ship Haggis to my brother in Australia as they only have crappy tinned haggis over there
[14:37]<+camerongray> haha!
[14:38]<+camerongray> Oh and Irn Bru for £1 a 2l bottle
[14:38]<@Calum> I am there!]
[14:38]<@Mulreay> We should get a group deal if a few of us do it
[14:38]<@Calum> even ] a bit in my excitement
[14:38]<@Calum> yeah true
[14:39]<+camerongray> Calum also likes Irn Bru! :D
[14:39]<+camerongray> So does BC
[14:39]<@Mulreay> Well I'm game anyway
[14:39]<@Calum> I love Irn Bru
[14:39]<@Calum> let's do this
[14:39]<@Mulreay> Irn Bru rocks..
[14:40]<@Mulreay> I have a 2ltr bottle next to my bed right now
[14:40]<@Mulreay> I was the one to introduce BC to it
[14:40]<+camerongray> Same :P
[14:40]<+camerongray> Well, on my desk
[14:41]<@Mulreay> We need a time frame and something we can all work to
[14:41]<+camerongray> Yeah
[14:41]<@Calum> I've used my holiday allowance for this year
[14:41]<+camerongray> The best times here are festival or Christmas
[14:42]<@Calum> and I am also broke until the end of the year at the very least
[14:42]<+camerongray> lol
[14:42]<@Calum> when's festival?>
[14:42]<+camerongray> Summer
[14:42]<+camerongray> !g Edinburgh Festival
[14:42]<+camerongray> grr
[14:42]<@Calum> Summer sounds good....gives me time to actually try and save some money
[14:42]<+camerongray> !g Edinburgh Festival Wikipedia
[14:43]<@Mulreay> I'm up for early next year.. and would give me chance to be more financial secure
[14:43]<@Mulreay> or summer next year
[14:44]<+camerongray> Yay
[14:44]<+camerongray> What about Craig-Work.etc?
[14:44]<@Mulreay> Craig-Work could you make Summer next year?
[14:44]<@Mulreay> pottsi care to join us? we could get the same train
[14:45]<@Calum> db said he can make it
[14:45]<@Mulreay> Then I'm staying at home
[14:46]<@Calum> haha
[14:46]<@Mulreay> Have fun guys I'm outy
[14:46]<+camerongray> ha
[14:46]<+camerongray> Mulreay: Have you ever met pottsi?
[14:46]<@Mulreay> Nope
[14:46]<+camerongray> Ahh
[14:46]<@Mulreay> I may have been on one of his trams but I will never know
[14:46]<+camerongray> lol
[14:47]<+camerongray> And Calum - Bring Kaiser :P
[14:47]<@Calum> haha, I could do, would have to drive though
[14:47]<@Calum> don't think they'd let him on the train
[14:47]<+camerongray> I will neither confirm nor deny whether I will steal him or not :P
[14:47]<@Calum> hah
[14:47]<@Mulreay> lol
[14:50]<+camerongray> Oh yeah, Need to book Tattoo tickets quite well in advance
[14:50]<@Mulreay> from £21 a night it would seem from travelodge.. I may fork out a little more so I get a bed and the such
[14:50]<+camerongray> lol!
[14:50]<+camerongray> The Edinburgh ones will be a lot more
[14:51]<@Mulreay> That was edinburgh
[14:51]<+camerongray> Oh wow
[14:51]<+camerongray> That's good :P
[14:51]<@Mulreay> It can't be good.. sleeping behing reception
[14:51]<+camerongray> haha!
[14:52]<+camerongray> Which travelodge is it?
[14:52]<+camerongray> There is one right in the center
[14:52]<+camerongray> Sure this one will be within budget: http://www.thebalmoralhotel.com/
[14:53]<+camerongray> Cheapest single room is £265/night!
[14:53]<@Mulreay> Well the advert (god forbid) being misleading is full of shite.. cheapest is Learmonth at £44
[14:53]<+camerongray> lol
[14:54]<@Mulreay> How long are we all staying?
[14:54]<+camerongray> No idea :P
[14:54]<+camerongray> Learmouth isn't super central
[14:55]<@Mulreay> Fri Sat Sun?
[14:55]<@Calum> we would probably stay 2 nights
[14:55]<@Calum> yeah sounds good
[14:55]<+camerongray> Yeah
[14:55]<@Calum> just because it's a pretty long trip to only stay a night
[14:55]<+camerongray> Yeah
[14:55]<@Mulreay> yeah
[14:56]<@Mulreay> I wan't to stay here just for funzies Edinburgh Cameron Toll
[14:57]<+camerongray> haha
[14:57]<@Calum> hah
[14:57]<+camerongray> That's a brand new one
[14:57]<+camerongray> Bit out of the city though, would need a bus
[14:58]<@Mulreay> Edinburgh Central Princes Street
[14:58]<@Mulreay> from
[14:58]<@Mulreay> £54
[14:58]<+camerongray> Then again, bus is pretty quick and like £1.50
[14:58]<+camerongray> Or day tickets are like £3.50 or something
[15:00]<+camerongray> Bus service here is brilliant, no point in driving
[15:00]<@Calum> yeah
[15:01]<+camerongray> No chance getting parked near the city, don't even think about driving through the center
[15:01]<@Calum> yeah I wasn't planning to
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[15:03]<BoB> Hello
[15:04]<+camerongray> Hey BoB
[15:06]<+camerongray> I need to stop clicking on to CH :P
[15:06]<+camerongray> There, hidden it :P
[15:06]<@Calum> heh
[15:07]<+camerongray> Read what is being said and instantly want to tear my eyes out with a spork
[15:08]<@Calum> that bad?
[15:10]<+camerongray> If you use your power button to signal your PC to shut down it will blow up and kill a puppy or something to that effect
[15:10]<BoB> you are in both rooms i see
[15:10]<+camerongray> In both yes, but can't talk in CH
[15:10]<BoB> im rainbowbrown
[15:10]<+camerongray> Ahh nice!
[15:10]<+camerongray> lol, see, we're on your side :P
[15:12]<+camerongray> BoB: I take it you feel similarly to us then about the whole thing?
[15:12]<BoB> some of their users claim to know things and some do but they go about things the harder way
[15:12]<+camerongray> Yeah
[15:13]<+camerongray> That was typical DB right there though
[15:14]<+camerongray> I've all but given up on CH chat now
[15:15]<BoB> ill wait for it not to work
[15:15]<+camerongray> lol yeah
[15:16]<+camerongray> The way I see it, almost all the good helpers are gone (You excluded) - It's just going to die out
[15:16]<@Calum> oops, just saw the time...I need to head off and grab some z's. Definitely up for Edinburgh though, we will definitely sort something out for summer :) catch you later guys, will be on tomorrow after work
[15:16]<+camerongray> Yeah, cya!
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[15:16]<BoB> wait for it!
[15:16]<+camerongray> Yep
[15:17]<BoB> im gonna smoke
[15:17]<+camerongray> :L :P
[15:18]<BoB> funny they say uefi bios
[15:18]<+camerongray> Yeah
[15:33]<BoB> it worked
[15:33]<BoB> high five
[15:33]<+camerongray> lol
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[16:16]<Magiobiwan> Dafuq
[16:16]<Magiobiwan> CH banned anyone from #glitchpc
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[17:45]<Craig-Work> Screw off ChanbotVII
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